Comments on: Shogun VS Machida – WTF M8?

By: MMA is PRIDE

MMA is PRIDE — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:07:24 +0000

Rua won the fight by a little bit. Some people think that it is not sufficient to win a title. It is wrong.
If Rua won by a little bit, then Machida lost by a little bit and we have a losing champion now.

Plus Machida, being a counter fighter, tends to produce more boring fights (as Rampage would say). Giving the W to a boring strategy is favouring defense rather than offense, which is detrimental to the sport itself.

That being said, and corruption with judges being what it is, I still think that the key to the Machida puzzle is the ground game. Rua has the tools to bring Machida to the ground (as he did with Chuck) and submitt him. This will be difficult as Machida is very good on the ground as well, but there is no counter-strike when you’re locked in a guillotine and takedowns do score fuckin points don’t they?

By: cbel413

cbel413 — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:59:56 +0000

Rua won that fight 4 rounds to 1 easily. Machida starting the 3rd round was confused and apprehensive because he did not know what to do to stop Shogun. The kid was robbed plain and simple. There’s no debating it, Machida took a beating, had no octagon generalship, wasn’t the aggressor and was exposed that night. Rogan’s commentary had nothing to do with anyone seeing differently. Maybe all his commentary over the past Machida fights where he says how elusive he is and how great he is confused many of you in believing this guy was some kind of new phenomenon, well he isn’t.

My hat is off to Shogun for a job well done, if only he wasn’t robbed it would’ve been a perfect night for him.

Oh btw don’t by Judge Nelson Hamilton’s DVDs on “How to Ref”, its obvious that he needs to learn how to ref a professional MMA fight. What a joke.

By: Billy

Billy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:34:37 +0000

No way jose

“Wow is this becoming boxing already?? Just when I was done with boxing..”

What and you thought you were so special. Any kind of fighting where money is involved is gonna be corrupt. MMA fanboys and their naivety.

By: Jose

Jose — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:49:35 +0000

Wow is this becoming boxing already?? Just when I was done with boxing..

By: mmamelee

mmamelee — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:53:52 +0000

Honestly I could see how he won rounds 1,2,3… I swore rua won that fight untill I watched it again without joe rogan commenting on the fight. I think it should have been a split decision, and either of them could have won in my eyes. but seriously I don’t like a corner telling a fighter he is clearly winning every round so then he goes into cruise control. I believe in the 3rd Machida almost finishes the fight with a flurry of kicks and punches and a knee. I never saw urgency in shogun to put together a takedown, submission, knockdown, or flurry. Just to outpoint and score hits. Can’t wait till the re-match shogun will try to finish and he will be successful or ko’d. Anything can happen when you leave it up to the judges, but I disagree with most and say it was a close fight seeing that body shots are worth more than leg kicks, also shogun had a red stomach and a mouse as well, you left that out.

By: Dynamite

Dynamite — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:34:40 +0000

One of the few times ill disagree with you i rewatched the fight and still had it 4 rounds to 1 round in favor of Shogun and i like both fighters but just saw shogun taking it to the champ and landing more then the champ did.

By: BigEyeGuy

BigEyeGuy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:14:44 +0000

I agree with your final conclusion, we got robbed some how,
but i also think that Machida fended off Rua nicely at the first 3 rounds and adding accurate punches to Rua face plus some knees, Rua couldnt really harm Machida in this 5 rounds fight, but eventually that encounter (if prolonged) would have ended to Rua’s favor.